yeah but edwards never came to support obama. he's
had plenty of chances and still he refuses. is he
planning to give his delegates to hillary!!!?!
If I were Obama I'd pick a woman so SHE could run for
president. But I don't know if America is ready for
THAT much change.
--- Rob Dyer <[address removed]> wrote:
> How I agree with this commentary!! It is why she
> must not be our candidate or V.P. I cannot imagine a
> V.P. who will continue to see herself as the true
> champion of the underprivileged (of all people) and
> of those who would stop at nothing to see her
> President.
> She has many good qualities, but Herbert highlights
> everything that would make me hesitate to vote
> Democrat if she were the candidate. The more we talk
> of all those she would bring as VP to vote for
> Obama, the more it makes me think of Edwards, who
> comes from this background and has been all his
> career their genuine, sincere and admirable
> champion.
> Rob Dyer
>
>
> -----E-mail d'origine-----
> De : Meredith <[address removed]>
> A : [address removed]
> Envoyé le : Samedi, 10 Mai 2008 23:11
> Sujet : [barackobama-165] Bob Herbert on the
> Clintons
>
>
>
>
>
http://www.nytime...
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>
> May 10, 2008
>
> Op-Ed Columnist
>
> Seeds of Destruction
>
> By BOB HERBERT
>
>
>
>
> The Clintons have never understood how to exit the
> stage gracefully.
>
>
>
>
> Their repertoire has always been deficient in grace
> and class. So there was Hillary Clinton
> cold-bloodedly asserting to USA Today that she was
> the candidate favored by ?hard-working Americans,
> white Americans,?? and that her opponent, Barack
> Obama, the black candidate, just can?t cut it with
> that crowd.
>
>
>
>
> ?There?s a pattern emerging here,?? said Mrs.
> Clinton.
>
>
>
>
> There is, indeed. There was a name for it when the
> Republicans were using that kind of lousy rhetoric
> to good effect: it was called the Southern strategy,
> although it was hardly limited to the South. Now the
> Clintons, in their desperation to find some way ?
> any way ? back to the White House, have leapt
> aboard that sorry train.
>
>
>
>
> He can?t win! Don?t you understand? He?s
> black! He?s black!
>
>
>
>
> The Clintons have been trying to embed that
> gruesomely destructive message in the brains of
> white voters and superdelegates for the longest
> time. It?s a grotesque insult to
> African-Americans, who have given so much support to
> both Bill and Hillary over the years.
>
>
>
>
> (Representative Charles Rangel of New York, who is
> black and has been an absolutely unwavering
> supporter of Senator Clinton?s White House quest,
> told The Daily News: ?I can?t believe Senator
> Clinton would say anything that dumb.??)
>
>
>
>
> But it?s an insult to white voters as well,
> including white working-class voters. It?s true
> that there are some whites who will not vote for a
> black candidate under any circumstance. But the
> United States is in a much better place now than it
> was when people like Richard Nixon, George Wallace
> and many others could make political hay by
> appealing to the very worst in people, using the
> kind of poisonous rhetoric that Senator Clinton is
> using now.
>
>
>
>
> I don?t know if Senator Obama can win the White
> House. No one knows. But to deliberately convey the
> idea that most white people ? or most
> working-class white people ? are unwilling to give
> an African-American candidate a fair hearing in a
> presidential election is a slur against whites.
>
>
>
>
> The last time the Clintons had to make a big exit
> was at the end of Bill Clinton?s second term as
> president ? and they made a complete and utter
> hash of that historic moment. Having survived the
> Monica Lewinsky ordeal, you might have thought the
> Clintons would be on their best behavior.
>
>
>
>
> Instead, a huge scandal erupted when it became known
> that Mrs. Clinton?s brothers, Tony and Hugh
> Rodham, had lobbied the president on behalf of
> criminals who then received presidential pardons or
> a sentence commutation from Mr. Clinton.
>
>
>
>
> Tony Rodham helped get a pardon for a Tennessee
> couple that had hired him as a consultant and paid
> or loaned him hundreds of thousands of dollars. Over
> the protests of the Justice Department, President
> Clinton pardoned the couple, Edgar Allen Gregory Jr.
> and his wife, Vonna Jo, who had been convicted of
> bank fraud in Alabama.
>
>
>
>
> Hugh Rodham was paid $400,000 to lobby for a pardon
> of Almon Glenn Braswell, who had been convicted of
> mail fraud and perjury, and for the release from
> prison of Carlos Vignali, a drug trafficker who was
> convicted and imprisoned for conspiring to sell 800
> pounds of cocaine. Sure enough, in his last hours in
> office (when he issued a blizzard of pardons, many
> of them controversial), President Clinton agreed to
> the pardon for Braswell and the sentence commutation
> for Vignali.
>
>
>
>
> Hugh Rodham reportedly returned the money after the
> scandal became public and was an enormous political
> liability for the Clintons.
>
>
>
>
> Both Clintons professed to be ignorant of anything
> improper or untoward regarding the pardons. Once,
> when asked specifically if she had talked with a
> deputy White House counsel about pardons, Mrs.
> Clinton said: ?People would hand me envelopes. I
> would just pass them on. You know, I would not have
> any reason to look into them.??
>
>
>
>
> It wasn?t just the pardons that sullied the
> Clintons? exit from the White House. They took
> furniture and rugs from the White House collection
> that had to be returned. And they received $86,000
> in gifts during the president?s last year in
> office, including clothing (a pantsuit, a leather
> jacket), flatware, carpeting, and so on. In response
> to the outcry over that, they decided to repay the
> value of the gifts.
>
>
>
>
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